BestJinjo

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  1. That's just 1 title. Cherry-picking like that doesn't work. There are other games where GTX480 trails HD7950 Boost by almost 50%: http://www.techspot....arks/page5.html You gotta look at the average performance in modern games to make a reasonable assessment of their comparable performance. HD7950 925-950mhz cards are just 2-3% behind GTX670: http://www.techpower...2_Boost/28.html or "GeForce GTX 670 is 12% faster than the Radeon HD 7950 and just 2% faster than the 7950 Boost. However the GTX 670 is 27% more expensive than both cards," http://www.techspot....rds/page12.html Saying HD7950 is about as fast as GTX480 in modern title is grossly misleading. HD7950 V2/Boost is neck and neck with GTX670. With overclocking, it can beat HD7970Ghz/GTX680: http://www.legionhar...t_clock,13.html On that note, imo Assassin's Creed 3 looks like garbage given the level of performance it offers. Compare the graphics vs. performance in AC3 vs. Witcher 2. AC3 is a terrible port.
  2. Zoso: "so the upgrade in the end won't cost me more than $50-$100 due to me getting the motherboard paid for by an outside party and selling my current hardware " Those are the best times to upgrade when people are willing to pay so much $ for old outdated parts because they might be stuck on E6600 or something and want a quick Q9550 swap without getting a new mobo + DDR3. The price of DDR2 is astronomical now. I remember I sold Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 4GB sticks for only $40 when I moved from Q6600 to i7. For only $20, you can sign up for the Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel®. http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/ You'll be able to overclock to 4.8-5.0ghz @ 1.45V and not worry about killing your chip. Although the solder on IVB is crap, so you might want to desolder the chip to drop temps 10-20*C. Congrats on the new upgrade.
  3. Ya, you were sleeping 1. "12.11 brings a nearly across-the-board framerate increase due to architectural optimizations within the driver stack rather than title-specific enhancements. This has primarily been achieved through the use of better memory management, meaning AMD’s GCN cores are now able to use memory bandwidth more efficiently. (Hardware Canucks)". VLIW-4/5 architectures didn't have this inefficiency so it was not possible to improve their performance I bet. 2. Better late than never. I am guessing AMD finally got proper access to the game code after MOH:W becoming an AMD Gaming Evolved title. In fairness NV didn't improve performance in a large number of games either where it trails HD7970. BF3 was one of the most popular games on the PC and that's why it hurt AMD way more than having faster performance in 10+ games like Crysis, Metro 2033, Alan Wake, Sleeping Dogs, Dirt Showdown, Sniper Elite V2, Witcher 2, Anno 2070, Serious Sam 3, etc. I think this sets up a more interesting race between HD8000 series and GTX700. We'll find out tomorrow if NV is faster in Medal of Honor Warfighter or if AMD fixed its issues in Frostbite 2.0. Keep in mind Nexuiz is a CryEngine game and while NV was faster in Crysis 2 initially, once AMD got access to CryEngine, AMD is now faster in Crysis 2 and Nexuiz, both based on CryEngine. I think the performance is very much impacted by who gets access to early code and optimizes for it and NV did it much better than AMD for BF3 Hopefully NV will respond with lower prices, its own game bundles or driver improvements. Great to see fierce competition for gamer's dollars this holiday season
  4. Normally I don't care about driver releases or game bundles but AMD is firing on all cylinders. I hope NV matches with its own game bundles or driver increases or price drops, which would result in for stronger competition for gamers! :)
  5. TechPowerUp just did a driver review. http://www.techpower...ormance/23.html AMD is now faster in BF3 than NV at each price level: http://www.techpower...formance/5.html The relative improvements for each card overall are: HD 7750: +4% HD 7770: +5% HD 7850: +4% HD 7870: +10% HD 7950: +7% HD 7970: +7% HD 7970 GHz: +7% EDIT: I probably should have moved this into the AMD Videocard section. Mods please move it there if you feel it's more appropriate BF3 performance increases are massive: Reviews that tested the driver increases: 1) AnandTech 2) Hexus.net 3) TechPowerup 4) Legit Reviews
  6. AMD Announces Never Settle Catalyst 12.11 Driver Update AMD announced what it calls the "Never Settle" driver, a version of Catalyst Software suite, which could potentially tilt the price-performance ratios in its favor, against NVIDIA. The new drivers carry the canonical version number 12.11, and target AMD Radeon 7000 series GPUs, specifically those based on the Graphics CoreNext architecture, such as HD 7750, HD 7770 GHz Ed., HD 7850, HD 7870 GHz Ed., HD 7950, HD 7950 BE, HD 7970, HD 7970 GHz Ed., and HD 7990; and mobile Radeon HD 7700M series, HD 7800M series, and HD 7900M series. Catalyst 12.11 promises up to 15% performance improvements in the most modern games, such as Battlefield 3, DiRT Showdown, Sleeping Dogs, Medal of Honor: Warfighter, and more. With these improvements, AMD is claiming performance leads for all its top products, over NVIDIA's. The Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, for example, gains 20% performance advantage over GeForce GTX 680; HD 7970 gains 15% over GTX 670, and HD 7950 20% over GTX 660 Ti. The Never Settle driver, along with its complete release notes and download links will be updated a little later today. http://www.techpower...ver-Update.html and even better, FREE GAMES! AMD Also Announces Never Settle Game Bundles In addition to the Never Settle Catalyst 12.11 drivers that give a shot of NOX to Radeon 7000 series GPUs, AMD unveiled the "Never Settle" Game Bundles. With each purchase of Radeon HD 7900 series, HD 7800 series, or HD 7700 series graphics card purchase, you get Steam coupons to a up to three games, with a guaranteed 20% off on purchase of Medal of Honor: Warfighter, on Steam. With every Radeon HD 7900 series product (HD 7990, HD 7970 GHz Ed., HD 7970, HD 7950 BE, and HD 7950), you get Steam coupons to FarCry 3, Hitman: Ascension, and Sleeping Dogs. With two HD 7800 or HD 7700 series products, you get coupons to FarCry 3 and Hitman: Ascension; with one HD 7800 series or HD 7700 series product, you get a coupon to FarCry 3. The promotion could run all the way through the Holiday season. http://www.techpower...me-Bundles.html
  7. These types of rules is only someone in a Communist country could come up with. What would happen if a 14nm GPU can use > 320GB/sec memory bandwidth and yet be more efficient than today's cards? Eventually, GPUs will need more memory bandwidth since it's critical for feeding ROPs. This sounds to me like another way for the bankrupt EU to raise taxes from companies that do not comply with their ludicrous gov't imposed standards that are often make up without any understanding of the industry. With the general state of declines in the global PC business, imposing even more tight regulation and rules to limit innovation by the graphics makers could prove dangerous in an industry that's already struggling to stay relevant due to changing consumer trends towards smartphones and tablets. On a more serious note, the entire argument even lacks logic. Household appliances such as your sexy gf/wife's hair dryer, your clothes dryer, clothing iron, dishwasher all use more electricity in a given hour of use than a videocard would. If someone has a 384-bit card and games with it for 2 hours a week, it would use less power than a 128-bit card that's gamed on for 10 hours a week. Without considering usage patterns, the argument cannot be made for which card ruins the environment more even if that's EU's angle. Isn't it already enough that NV and AMD are having to deal with rising wafer costs as node shrinks are becoming even costlier at foundries and now they have to deal with artificially imposed energy laws by the EU? This can't be good for AMD especially since HD8000 series will surely use 384-bit bus. This sounds like the 276-hp limitations on sports cars in Japan back in the days. Even if the GPU makers comply with these rules, the EU will continue to squeeze ever lowering power standards then if they succeed this time. Then we could find ourselves with a high-end GPU limited to 100W and in the end neutered GPU generations not worth upgrading to since the generation before it would be 120W, and before that 140W and you really need the power room to make advancements without frequent node shrinks.